Farewell, thou Good and Faithful Conveyance

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 12/15/2018 at 13:11 • Filed to: None

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I sold a ‘99 Camry to buy this ‘89 Camry more than ten years ago. We put over 100,000 miles on this car. My three daughters and their Best Friend for Life all took their drivers license driving test in this car. Best car ever, and ran and drove great right to its grave. (It also needed a new heater core and every engine and transmission seal replaced and was leaking a cocktail of fluids...)

Best. Car. I’ve. Ever. Owned.

Toyota’s Golden Age

lone_liberal > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 12/15/2018 at 13:34

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MultiplaOrgasms > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 12/15/2018 at 14:23

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Aint no Maxima but the best substitute.

Tristan > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 12/15/2018 at 17:31

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Farewell, faithful friend! May you give your parts so that others may live.

Did PnP really give you a grand for it?!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MultiplaOrgasms 12/15/2018 at 19:06

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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Tristan 12/15/2018 at 19:08

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The State did. And the car will be crushed as is, and not dismantled, which is too bad, because it has lots of new parts on it.

Tristan > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 12/15/2018 at 23:47

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Sad! Leave it to California to use tax money to buy and crush old cars that would otherwise be purchased by the junkyard for $75.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Tristan 12/16/2018 at 10:33

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I think it’s more like $175 that the wrecking yard will give you. And the yard could have definitely sold a number of parts off my car. But if they want to get cars off the road that are less environmentally friendly, how would they spend money to do that? I don’t know the answer to that, but I’m happy to have the grand in the bank a week before Christmas.

Have you started that P-3 book yet?

Tristan > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 12/16/2018 at 12:28

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California already has the strictest emissions laws. Could an old properly maintained Camry really pollute more than a new pickup/SUV? Besides- how many are still out there really? I just feel like California has a big spending problem and also taxes the daylights out of its citizens, so this is just another frivolous program. I'm not fairing you for taking the money though- I totally would have done the same.

I just cracked it open 2 nights ago, but I haven’t gotten far. So far it’s good, though! I’m out of the house for a couple nights (new baby!)  and forgot to bring it, but I’ll get back to it soon.

bhtooefr > Tristan 12/16/2018 at 19:33

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Here’s the absolute worst a light duty car or truck (or a medium duty passenger vehicle) can legally be under LEV III emissions, after 150,000 mi : 0.160 g/mi NMOG+NOx, 4.2 g/mi CO , 4 mg/mi HCHO, 0.01 g/mi PM. Additionally, the fleet averages allowable for LDT2+MDPV at the federal level for MY2019 (California might be more strict) are 0.083 g/mi NMOG+NOx.

Compare to Tier 1, which is much later than what that Camry had to meet (IIRC it only phased in in 1994), at 100,000 mi : 0.31 g/mi NMOG, 0.6 g/mi NOx (for a total of 0.91 g/mi NMOG+NOx), 4.2 g/mi CO, no specific limits for PM other than the 0.08 g/mi 50,000 mi limit, and no limits for HCHO.

And, we haven’t even covered the improvements in evaporative emissions control devices in that time, which also help with smog.

So, for smog-forming tailpipe emissions (the NMOG+NOx) , the absolute worst-case modern light duty pickup has a bit over 1/6 the emissions, and the fleet average for the pickups needs to be a bit over 1/11 the emissions.